User talk:Ygr
In this edit summary, I noticed that it says that some of the page's writing was aided with the use of AI. To be clear, do you plan to publish this page or any of its writing to the wiki? I have apprehensions about this being added to any part of the main wiki if this is the case. I understand maybe it was used to aid in translation(?), but I still feel uneasy with it being published since it sets a dangerous precedent. If it was used to aid in general page creation/writing, then that would be worrisome.
While it's not exactly the same issue, part of the reason the independent Deltarune Wiki was created was because many editors do not like AI, like when Fandom forced AI questions and answers to be integrated into the (previous) wiki. I share the same sentiment where I don't think it's a good idea to use AI, and it would be better to use one's own word of voice if possible. If it's not possible to use one's own word of voice, then while it sucks, then it would be better to not add anything.
The Policy and Manual of Style do not expressly forbid AI, but I just wanted to express my concerns as a random editor. If it's a joke edit summary or if I misunderstood it, then please let me know. HylianAngel (talk) 11:34, 27 December 2025 (UTC)
- This article was originally written in Chinese. I thought AI was probably just used for translation as two versions' contents were nearly same. Bluesoul (talk) 12:46, 27 December 2025 (UTC)
- If the grammar was off, feel free to tweak it! It might just need a native speaker's touch ovo Bluesoul (talk) 12:48, 27 December 2025 (UTC)
- It's understandable if there are any grammar errors, so don't worry about that. That can always be fixed. Even native English speakers make so many errors. My main concern is if there was any usage of AI to write the article. But I understand now that it was used for translation. HylianAngel (talk) 13:50, 27 December 2025 (UTC)
- I understand your worry, I dislike AI neither. But as I said, I'm busy that time and afraid of forgot this matter immediately.
- I swear AI is only used for translation.I created same page in chinese wiki just this noon, and it's a complete translation version of that. Due to slow translation and interrupted break time, I can't translate it at one time, but I just think.....it's more impolite for english users to create a page in english wiki with a language they can't understand at all, even if it's a draft.
- I had read the moving announcement, despite broken grammar, I believe the main reason why people hates AI is --misleading ininformations.So if you find ANY wrong informations in current version,PLEASE MUST TELL ME and I'll never use AI again.
- Also, I'll fix its grammar in following days. Ygr (talk) 13:12, 27 December 2025 (UTC)
- I see, thank you for the info and clarification it was only used for translation.
- Another thing is that AI steals the writing from other people without credit. The only reason why AI produces anything good is because it draws from the real people who created something of substance. So that's another reason to dislike it. HylianAngel (talk) 13:50, 27 December 2025 (UTC)
- (honestly It's me literally do the "steal" as some contents of angel is from legend and Delta Rune) Ygr (talk) 14:02, 27 December 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's fine to use content published on existing wiki pages here to improve or make new pages here, as long as it ultimately gets credited in the page's edit summary at some point. I just meant that, generally, AI draws from various online sources but doesn't give credit, and that's a huge issue. HylianAngel (talk) 14:07, 27 December 2025 (UTC)
- This is certainly an issue. But in Deltarune Wiki, informations which involve messages outside the game are needed to add an references(and link to Twitter, Fangamer, Bluesky, etc.), and which involves in-game content are needed to Cite to quotes or codes.An editor, as long as they are responsible, won't just pour unsure infromations into their favorite game wiki. At least this is my view. Ygr (talk) 17:02, 27 December 2025 (UTC)
- Using citations and game references to source the original text/media/person is not an issue, nor is it plagiarism. If you copy another person's writing and then attempt to pass it off as your own writing, then that's plagiarism.
- Restating the plot of a video game, using your own word of voice, is not plagiarism, as you are not attempting to claim ownership of the original source material. Also, the word of voice varies dramatically depending on the author's take on the source material along with their level of writing. No single person will summarize the material in the exact same manner, because the writing style and interpretation originates from that person, even though they are talking about the same subject.
- AI steals the actual human writing of other people and pretends it wrote it on its own. It does not use citations and sources, and it does not give credit. It does this without permission, and it plagiarizes writing on a large-scale.
- wait...is"credit"refers to "praise"?
- "credit" in this scenario means "to give attribution to the original creator," which means to acknowledge that the text you produced is not entirely from your original thought. HylianAngel (talk) 23:11, 27 December 2025 (UTC)
- I see.thankyou for your explanation.
- That go against the Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International and Deltarune Wiki:copyright(Why is it deleted?), I won't make that. Ygr (talk) 03:04, 28 December 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure on why Deltarune Wiki:Copyrights is a redlink whenever a page is edited, you'd have to ask Kocka. HylianAngel (talk) 03:38, 28 December 2025 (UTC)
- This is certainly an issue. But in Deltarune Wiki, informations which involve messages outside the game are needed to add an references(and link to Twitter, Fangamer, Bluesky, etc.), and which involves in-game content are needed to Cite to quotes or codes.An editor, as long as they are responsible, won't just pour unsure infromations into their favorite game wiki. At least this is my view. Ygr (talk) 17:02, 27 December 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's fine to use content published on existing wiki pages here to improve or make new pages here, as long as it ultimately gets credited in the page's edit summary at some point. I just meant that, generally, AI draws from various online sources but doesn't give credit, and that's a huge issue. HylianAngel (talk) 14:07, 27 December 2025 (UTC)
- (honestly It's me literally do the "steal" as some contents of angel is from legend and Delta Rune) Ygr (talk) 14:02, 27 December 2025 (UTC)
Hey Ygr, can I fix up your Angel article draft so it can be out in mainspace? — Link [ T | C ] 04:06, 20 April 2026 (UTC)
- Hi! feel free to edit it! The draft currently just lists everything about Angel and doesn't do any summary and analysis... Ygr (talk) 16:23, 20 April 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks! Don't worry about it, I'll try to figure out the structure along the way. — Link [ T | C ] 16:27, 20 April 2026 (UTC)